Civil Case No. 0141
Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
Hi, you’re already in PCGG’s ‘the missing art movement’, meaning nakaw po yan. That’s the sole reason why they created this website – so the people can help if there’s any possibly sightings. Baka po nabiktima ka ng fake news.
Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier on fire? Hahahaha.
They believe in Andy Bautista narrative who is Andy B by the way where is he ? the accusation of his wife that he has a tons of money, and yet he flew instead of facing it
The shoes are a mix of local and imported brands — pairs by Ferragamo, Givenchy, Chanel, Christian Dior, Charles Jourdan and Bally, along with well-known local brands.
Lol. It’s no surprise she have those brand, first lady received various gift from other country they visit ni FEM. But she’s promoting local made from Philippines everytime.
They think she’s very fashionable and would appreciate a gift.
pwede kac magbasa…may nagbigay na nga ng link..diyos miyo eto tayo….may court order na lahat lahat naghahanap parin ng evidence…sorry ndi nmn kaya magbigay ng tiktok link
We already do our research regarding Marcoses’ History and we could say that all accusations to Marcos family are coming from bias media who twisted and manipulated everything to make the Marcoses bad. You people always tell that Marcos’ are “magnanakaw” yet the Supreme Court didn’t even convict them. Binasura ang mga cases nila. I believe there’s due process for that case and if they are really magnanakaw then why until now binabasura parin ng Supreme Court ang case nila? If you want us to believe your accusations and all opinions or I must say black propagandas against Marcoses then drop some proofs atleast.
It is a unique painting that went missing nga eh, made by Pablo Picasso himself. This painting is being searched ano ba mahirap intindihin don . No one can replicate a painting if it went missing common sense
Biased kasi Supreme Court sa US may kaso. Stop being cringe.
The burden of proof lies with the prosecution. The prosecution must convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the charges brought against them.
It is a missing artwork then it was found on Imelda Marcos’ house when Bbm visited his mom after winning the pres. election. If it was not bought illegally, then it should not be marked as missing. Simple logic
It is a unique painting that went missing nga eh, made by Pablo Picasso himself. This painting is being searched ano ba mahirap intindihin don . No one can replicate a painting if it went missing common sense
Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier own fire? Hahahaha.
“Robert Sison said that the paintings were not included in a forfeiture case which the Philippine government brought against the Marcos family more than a decade ago.” https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29427876
iisa sila. yung frame lang ang naiba. sa pic sa kingmaker, mas wide yung sides ng frame kaya malaki area na covered, nabawasan buhok at sa paa nya. yung sa galing kay imee mas manipis yung frame.
Hah? Hahaha Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier on fire? Hahahaha.
No i think it’s not. Sa kingmaker Fake un look closely sa strokes ng pag paint, sa latest un na yung totoo di na nila tinago or vice versa? I’m not sure
malamang dun din galing mismo yung picture from the source. hindi ka ba nag tataka pati yung shadow ng halaman sa kanan is nandun din sa picture from the source na naka crop lang kaya lumabo ng ganyan.. hayss mga pilipinong ‘to ang bilis nyo mapaniwala mga timang
Nope. The link you sent is the same as the replica. I dont know how you guys check legitimacy of art pieces but this is a very simple task. Check the curvatures of the red lines of the original vs the replica, check the green curve line below. Check the blending of the colors, check the quality. Sa red lines palang alam mo nang magkaiba. I’m not a professional myself but i’m a fan of paintings. Napaka eng eng nalang ng magsabing magkatulad ang bagay na halatang magkaiba. Check it very very carefully.
It can be the same one because painings may or may not be deteriorate over time… Also, if they want themselves to be cleared of suspicion (which I highly doubt), then they would let the PCGG investigate or confiscate the painting on the wall :/
P.S: It puzzles me as to why they would have a replica of the painting they’ve stole.
They’re the same. They only changed the frame. Kingmaker and this photo has thicker frame (I guess the original frame). Current frame seen in TV Patrol is thinner.
It was already confirmed to be at imeldas house even last year, that cropped pic is from that picture, idk why they are declaring it as missing we know where it is.
Bobo nakapaglaro ka na ba ng spot the difference? Kahit kami dito sa bahay meron kaming replica non mas maliit eh, iba din itsura sa orig na ginawa ni Picasso, so ninakaw din namin?
Pablo Picasso died 1973. therefore, it was 49 years ago.
according to research, you are allowed to replicate an artwork only if the artist died over 50 years.
in conclusion, replicate or not, it is illegal & knowing that this artwork is missing. Parehas na parehas yung artwork are you blind? I’m an artist kaya wag ka nagmamarunong
Please compare. It looks like a copy, there are slight differences from this to the on the video.
Bea
1 year ago
Hi! The painting resurfaced yesterday (May 11, 2022). Aired on TV Patrol when BBM visited Imelda. Photos were provided by Imee Marcos herself. Please see link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdO-87pe7g
yup. ewan ko ba dito sa mga to. akala ko ba magaling sila sa mga facts? tapos simpleng differences lang ng details sa painting hindi pa ma figure out mga timang hahahaha
Did you read the link that I attached? State spokesman Nick Suarez confirmed that a number of pieces of art had been removed from Marcos properties, but they “have yet to determine which ones or how many”. It was said that around 150 painting was there, and there are missing pieces.
And you are making a story that those painting is just a replica?
Do you have a source of that?
I think the reaurfacing of the painting just calls for an investigation if this is legit or not. If he’s innocent then no problem. If he’s not, then it proves he’s a thief. Why so defensive?
Sarado agad utak? Bugok. Wala pa mang legal movement na ginagawa ikaw sarado utak be. Masyado kang nagmamagaling edi kung napatunayan edi laklakin mo paintings jusko..
Civil Case No. 0141
Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
Tama. May due process lahat yan. Need to undergo investigation first to prove that they really stole it. Wag naman sana sarado utak mga people. Makapang bash lang ih.
If the painting that recently resurfaced on the news is really speculated as the missing piece, it should be investigated. But the question is, will the authorities act on it? Now that a Marcos is to be proclaimed as president?
And speaking of replicas, yes, they can make one like what they did to the Golden Buddha.
I agree, kasi katulad ng sinabi mo replicas could be like that kasi iba ang details if you will compare those 2 and yah they can act on it tho Marcos will be the President…
Artist ako. Alam ko kung base lang sa lightings na sinasabi mo. Kaso hindi. Pakatitigan mo din yung sukat ng bawat details. Lalo sa lower part. Magkaibang magkaiba.
Sinasampal na sa mukha natin lahat na kayang kaya nilang magnakaw pero kayo umaastang walang nakikita or naririnig. Gusto niyo ng pag babago pero nag bubulagbulagan kayo. Yan ang kaibahan nyong mga panatiko ni BBM! Kaming kakampink hindi kami panatiko ni leni kung sakaling may negatibong lumabas tungkol sa kanya, kami ang unang uusig sa kanya. Hindi yun bang babash lang basta. Bukas ang isip namin sa pangit at magandang ginagawa ng kandidato namin. Eh kayo? Halos sambahin niyo na.
and yet you chose to turn blind on her ‘lutang’ moments. she made a fool of herself on the campaign. wearing stupid costumes, doing absurdly idiotic ‘superhero’ videos and all of you kakampinks either ignored it or just urged her to do more of those. Yung speech nya everytime nakafocus sa ibang candidate. and what is the highlight of her rallies? her reading stupid placards na makes you (kakampinks) feel superior pero cringeworthy naman. I really tried to know and understand her as a presidential candidate pero sobrang turn off nung mga ‘terms’ na pinapasimuno ng camp nya and ng mga supporters. i had enough of hearing/reading the words ‘laylayan and resibo’ in everything you all say.
Actually, she is an okay candidate. Even good at some point. Pero i believe one of her downfalls are her supporters like you who thinks they are a hundred times better than anyone else just because other people chose a different side or still undecided. Instead na makagarner kayo ng supporter, lalo na nabawasan. You all claim she is like this and that, and she is more known and popular now than the 2016 elections, but what happened to her votes comapred to then and now? With the gained popularity and the support of those artistas, her votes didn’t even spike? And you all make fun of the celebrities on other candidates’ rallies for being unknown and has been.. e wala naman palang hatak yang mga well known artists nyo kahit pa magpatayan na mga fandom nila.
You said, ‘Bukas ang isip namin sa pangit at magandang ginagawa ng kandidato namin. Eh kayo? Halos sambahin niyo na.’How about you open you mind sa magandang nagawa or maaring gawin din ng iba? Wala pa man e jinajudge nyo na. Bias kayo lol. Kay mamaleni lang kayo open pero sa iba, nada. Not pertaining to BBm alone, other candidates as well.
At some point, you leni supporters reminds me of a cult. you look only to leni as the only savior there is. yes she is capable but, she is not the only one capable. you support more the color pink than the country itself. her rallies, people were asked to wear pink, bring pink decors, pink flags. but where is the philippines in that pink? kahit anong kulay pa ang ifront nyo, if you are not bringing the philippines with you at the back of that color, you are not for the philippines. you are for the candidate. 🙂
And one more thing, see the gap between leni and kiko’s votes? they are supposed to be a tandem. but how come only 9 million voted for kiko? lol sobrang kawawa na nga nya in his situation, lalo pa sa mga rallies niyo. either nasa likod lang, yung mga nag eendorse, si leni lang ang itataas ang kamay. si kiko parang afterthought na lang. their names are together sa campaign lang. names lang.
Parang kay Marcos Martial Law lutang, ousted at tumakbo sa Hawaii moments lang which people turned a blind eye on. Also wow moment. Mahaba dahil alam may reading comprehension maka-Leni meanwhile mga ka-Marcos waley kaya I have to keep this short. Para talagang kulto akala matalino mga ka-Marcos dahil alam naman na mga narcissist leaders yung naglilead ng mga kulto. Sa bagay, kapag 86 average IQ lang ang mga Filipinos malamang susceptible sila sa mga cults. Buti nga mababait mga Amerikano nakapamahay pa rin mga Marcos sa Hawaii na ibinoto ng mga 86 IQ people.
🙂
Haha pa you’re not for the philippines, you’re for the candidate pang inaalam parang hindi binoboto mga pilipino yung mga ka-barangay lang. Ahaha. Very tribal culture.
Last edited 1 year ago by Enough is enough is enough
Filipinos being desperate without any more knowledge and proofs, basta makita lang na mali kahit dimo alam kung ano ba talaga ibabato mo e lols grow up people.
Hello, known as thievery? Kayo lang naman ang may mga pasaring na ganyan. Y not try to file a case beh, there’s legal process to that. Go tocourt and ilatag mo ang mga ebidensiya mayroon ka. Puro kayo imaginary judgments with no sense.
Papuntahin mo si BBM sa US may court na agad 🙂 pero corrupt naman ang mga Pilipino, it’ in their genes so why does it make sense for one to trust the Philippine courts? Of course corrupt people vote corrupt presidents. Kek.
It has resurfaced again this week when Marcos Jr visited his mother during his lead in the election tally. The Election tally is questionable. The records show a statistically impossible straight linear.
I bet to disagree. Even UP school already clarify abt that issue. If u still have a doubt abt election tally then file a case. Huwag tayo puro imaginary judgments. Simple math and statistics di mo kayang gawin?
Can you please provide the link for the clarification made by a UP professor? If you’re going to look at the data, the numbers do not make any sense. It’s straight linear without any deviation or outlier. It means the percentage of change is fixed which is kinda weird since the numbers seem like predetermined. I hope you understand this.
so far, PPCRV already said that no irregularities happened between transmissions and ER cross checkings, if there is something irregularities inside the precinct, I think your poll watchers can give you the best answer. The straight linear is statiscally possible but still can’t be use as evidence of irregularities.
Tumindig
1 year ago
It’s in Imelda Marcos’ house in Makati City, Philippines.
Butaw
1 year ago
“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance”
You keep on throwing trash, y not try to file a case abt this. It takes due process beh. If this is indeed true, well, can’t blame ppl for bashing them. However, if the outcome shows otherwise, shame for those people who bashed them.
yung nasa 2015 source, ayan din yung nasa facebook na kumakalat. pansinin nyo yung shadow ng halaman kanan pansinin nyo yung details wag kayo magpakatangaa!!
On artworks: Civil Case No. 0141 Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 (Yes during Duterte admin) – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
“In the case of respondents, they failed to state and substantiate how they lawfully acquired the funds used to purchase the paintings. Respondents likewise failed to show proof that they had other legitimate sources of income aside from their combined salaries of $304,372.43. Hence, this sum legally and fairly serves as basis for determining the existence of a prima facie case of forfeiture of the artworks. The Court also notes that aside from respondents’ admission by silence, there were instances when respondents made express admissions as to their possession and/or ownership of the paintings and/or artworks.”
— Other items included for this case ONLY:
*Malacanang Collection of Jewelry (In 2017, YES during Duterte admin again, the SC dismissed the appeal filed by the Marcoses with FINALITY)
*Arelma Funds (US)
*Swiss Deposits of 5 Marcos’ Foundations (US$658,175,373.60 as of 31 January 2002) (around 34 billion pesos)
Aries
1 year ago
Nasa marcos yan nasa news…Huli piro di kulong..na naman..
Why they will stole if they really own it.
Nakalagay lang na missing kay google missing artwork na hahaha .. hindi ba pwedeng tinangal nalang sa google bitch
Please don’t be unreasonable. If it’s identified as missing, then it means it could be stolen by someone else and those who have it now acquired the masterpiece illegally. Google is a search engine, you could either find a credible or sketchy website. Nevertheless, it’s on YOU if you can’t fact-check and classify what is fake from fact. I pity you, really. I hope you’re getting paid for being this unreasonable.
the painting has resurfaced today.
video from imee marcos herself.
Did imelda marcos stole it?
Marcos family is known for theivery, so… 🤷♀️🤷♀️
to be fair and accurate, marcos family use ill gotten wealth to buy artworks.
proof?
Andy Bautista on Twitter: “👍 This painting was also captured in #TheKingmaker” / Twitter see this photo from twitter
so a tweet is enough proof?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1791663681199270&id=294969194202067
Civil Case No. 0141
Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
SOURCE: https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests/aglzfmVmb2ktcGhyHgsSB0NvbnRlbnQiEVBDR0ctNTMxOTQ5ODA5MjU5DA
good enough?
You didn’t even checked if it’s the original or not.. It was said that the original painting was not found rather it was just a mere replica
The artwork is listed as missing. Then see it on the news, hanging on their wall. Proof? 🤦
Spot the difference, lol it’s not the same. It’s clearly a replica
if its a replica then why do they need to hide when PCGG went to inspect their property?
Because the PCGG might make up stories. We know how crooked the people of Cory are.
Cory is dead you idiot
Why
Why would they be so un aware and careless then post it if they are really trying to hide the painting?
AGREE!! I CHECKED IT TOO!
Its the same from the KingMaker film, but from the latest video posted it’s clearly a replica I have proof, they’re hiding it now
I agree. It’s clearly a replica!
You think Imelda would settle down for a replica?she has taste and it’s her trademark..
Ang pumikit ay di na magmumulat
lol, it will not be tagged missing if it was bought.
They are the one who’s being robbed
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1791663681199270&id=294969194202067
any solid proof?
Does the ill gotten wealth was proven na po ba? To be fair and accurate. As far as I know, it was all dismiss.
she is the owner and in 2015 the government announced that it will launch a crowd-sourcing website in an attempt to recover the artworks.
Hi, you’re already in PCGG’s ‘the missing art movement’, meaning nakaw po yan. That’s the sole reason why they created this website – so the people can help if there’s any possibly sightings. Baka po nabiktima ka ng fake news.
wow proof please?
Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier on fire? Hahahaha.
The painting is way to visible in the latest captured video inside Imelda marcos house
They just did
They believe in Andy Bautista narrative who is Andy B by the way where is he ? the accusation of his wife that he has a tons of money, and yet he flew instead of facing it
the picture is the proof. huwag tanga
Bobo tignan mo yung red lines sa baba, magka-iba puro ka dada ayaw mo tignan maigi.
I think same lang kasi cropted yung picture kaya blurred which taken from the picture of Imelda. Enlighten me pls, tnkx.
and also iba yung frame na ginamit kaya nag nukhanh maiksi yung red and yellow colors
bulag ka ata eh
stop referring to urself, tingnang mabuti same photo but different frame
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/imelda-marcos-missing-art-philippines-373709/amp-page
Plss click the link, and try to screenshot the picture.Then icrop mo, makikita mo na same lang yung picture sa taas at yung picture sa link.
Thanks
no
KUNG HINDI KA ARTIST WAG MO NG IPILIT !!! NAPAKA DAMI NG DIFFERENCE.
hhahahahah bulag ka ba
right
So you’re telling me/us na gumagamit ang mga Marcos ng Pekeng gamit? LOL
EH KAHIT NGA SHOES COLLECTION NA GAWANG MARIKINA, NAPAKA BIG DEAL AT ISSUE NA SA INYO!?
The shoes are a mix of local and imported brands — pairs by Ferragamo, Givenchy, Chanel, Christian Dior, Charles Jourdan and Bally, along with well-known local brands.
Lol. It’s no surprise she have those brand, first lady received various gift from other country they visit ni FEM. But she’s promoting local made from Philippines everytime.
They think she’s very fashionable and would appreciate a gift.
no way!
Yep di nga katulad they just make this for propaganda
true. hanggang dito, umaatake troll farm nila.
Ikaw mas tanga, ugaling robredog asong ulol.
Replica po yun🫰🏻
Ask them to allow PCGG to scrutinize the painting in front of the public to be fair
evidence pleeeeeeeeeease 🤣
pwede kac magbasa…may nagbigay na nga ng link..diyos miyo eto tayo….may court order na lahat lahat naghahanap parin ng evidence…sorry ndi nmn kaya magbigay ng tiktok link
Before you utter such words make it sure First if you have evidence
“steal” not stole bobo naman.
ha? it was gift to imelda marcos when she was first lady.
agree. si leni nga diba ganun kadami natanggap within the campaign period, what more si imelda na first lady for how many years?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1791663681199270&id=294969194202067
Proof?
Lol have you seen the different with the original and replicate copy that lady Emelda Marcos have you fool use your eyes not mouth stupid
ULOL! 🤣🤣
Have seen the missing and the one in Imelda’s it seems Imelda’s has the reproduce one
They brought it illegally using Philippine people’s tax
proof?
why do you keep asking for proof? Are you that lazy to search about it yourself the Marcoses’ History are all over google and twitter
The fact that u used the word twitter is literally a red flag brooo
Nani?
HAHAHAHA stupid, using Twitter as reliable source?
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/imelda-marcos-missing-art-philippines-373709/amp-page
We already do our research regarding Marcoses’ History and we could say that all accusations to Marcos family are coming from bias media who twisted and manipulated everything to make the Marcoses bad. You people always tell that Marcos’ are “magnanakaw” yet the Supreme Court didn’t even convict them. Binasura ang mga cases nila. I believe there’s due process for that case and if they are really magnanakaw then why until now binabasura parin ng Supreme Court ang case nila? If you want us to believe your accusations and all opinions or I must say black propagandas against Marcoses then drop some proofs atleast.
It is a unique painting that went missing nga eh, made by Pablo Picasso himself. This painting is being searched ano ba mahirap intindihin don . No one can replicate a painting if it went missing common sense
Biased kasi Supreme Court sa US may kaso. Stop being cringe.
LoL anong no one can create a replica??? Bago pa naging missing yan May picture na yan. Yan na nga oh yung picture bago naging missing.
Bakit may kaso sa US. Baka biased supreme court? Tinging tingin lang pag may time.
Did kasi bobo
The burden of proof lies with the prosecution. The prosecution must convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the charges brought against them.
TwItTer 🤡
💯‼️‼️‼️
It is a missing artwork then it was found on Imelda Marcos’ house when Bbm visited his mom after winning the pres. election. If it was not bought illegally, then it should not be marked as missing. Simple logic
Ehh, are you sure that’s a legitimate one? The picture on top does not even match the picture on their house. Take a closer look.
It is a unique painting that went missing nga eh, made by Pablo Picasso himself. This painting is being searched ano ba mahirap intindihin don . No one can replicate a painting if it went missing common sense
they obviously bought it illegally…oh god are you using some brain? you can buy things illegally you know
SI ANDY BAUTISTA LANG ANG MAY SABI NA IYAN IYON. MAS ASSUMING PA KAYO SA SUPREME COURT.
Before you tell such accusations, can you atleast drop proofs/evidences?
YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SPOT THE DIFFERENCE! MEAN YUNG PAINTING NA YUN NASA KANILA IS JUST A REPLICA..
any solid evidence?
Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier own fire? Hahahaha.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1128512327695359&set=pcb.1128512561028669
Ha?
Ambush/ surprise visit. Forgot abt the painting lol
you will burn urself paid troll
“Robert Sison said that the paintings were not included in a forfeiture case which the Philippine government brought against the Marcos family more than a decade ago.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29427876
Yes. We are now run by admin of thieves
Nope, she just displayed it in her living room
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1791663681199270&id=294969194202067
the one in Imelda’s house is FAKE. hahaha! bintang pa more.
https://www.facebook.com/forthemotherlandph/photos/a.294984410867212/1791663257865979/
FaCeBoOk 🚩🤪🙃
no…they bought it
Two different piece. If you look closely. So which is which
You’re right. I checked after reading your comment and magkaiba nga.
But then if you check an older photo, probably from the film, the Kingmaker, super similar sa original. Link here: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/imelda-marcos-missing-art-philippines-373709/amp-page
The painting posted today vs what appeared in the film, both in Imelda’s possession, are different.
So conclusion here is: they have 2 copies of the painting. The fake and the real thing.
iisa sila. yung frame lang ang naiba. sa pic sa kingmaker, mas wide yung sides ng frame kaya malaki area na covered, nabawasan buhok at sa paa nya. yung sa galing kay imee mas manipis yung frame.
Focus on the lines on the lower portion of the painting. Yung photo from today, longer yung lines compared sa nagappear sa film and sa legit painting.
I agree. They changed the frame. Same painting.
Hah? Hahaha Noo! they’re spreading fakenews without the legal movement. Judgement is far from the immediately accusations and no proof, lol. You think they will burn them selves with thier on fire? Hahahaha.
You’re just one of BBM trolls clearly you’re here to protect them from the truth.
lol! 31 million daw yan (sa loob nang SD card)
No i think it’s not. Sa kingmaker Fake un look closely sa strokes ng pag paint, sa latest un na yung totoo di na nila tinago or vice versa? I’m not sure
binasa mo ba maigi? di mo ata naintindihan
Iba yan. Tignan mo angle ng 2nd line from the right. So alin jan ang totoo o hindi
edi hindi magkaparehas.. diba?
malamang dun din galing mismo yung picture from the source. hindi ka ba nag tataka pati yung shadow ng halaman sa kanan is nandun din sa picture from the source na naka crop lang kaya lumabo ng ganyan.. hayss mga pilipinong ‘to ang bilis nyo mapaniwala mga timang
Nope. The link you sent is the same as the replica. I dont know how you guys check legitimacy of art pieces but this is a very simple task. Check the curvatures of the red lines of the original vs the replica, check the green curve line below. Check the blending of the colors, check the quality. Sa red lines palang alam mo nang magkaiba. I’m not a professional myself but i’m a fan of paintings. Napaka eng eng nalang ng magsabing magkatulad ang bagay na halatang magkaiba. Check it very very carefully.
here po
It can be the same one because painings may or may not be deteriorate over time… Also, if they want themselves to be cleared of suspicion (which I highly doubt), then they would let the PCGG investigate or confiscate the painting on the wall :/
P.S: It puzzles me as to why they would have a replica of the painting they’ve stole.
They’re the same. They only changed the frame. Kingmaker and this photo has thicker frame (I guess the original frame). Current frame seen in TV Patrol is thinner.
Not the same painting, look at the 2 circles and the lines in the bottom. Obviously not the same. Marcos has 2 different paintings real and fake.
Same painting, different frame
bobo ampota tignan mo yung mga guhit sa baba.
really? you figured out that out from your vantage point?
Magkaiba po tingnan nyo po maigi sa upper part
buksan nyo ngang mabuti mata niyo. magkaiba yung details ng painting. maybe ni recreate lang yan or just a replica mga timang
Si imelda mag didisplay ng replica? Are you nuts? 😂
Dba its illegal to copy one’s art?
fact check: it is legal to copy anything, whats illegal is if you sell/publish it.
Ahaha. Torrenters.
I won’t insist about that, the painting is actually in the Marcos’House.
Tahol beh
https://www.themissingart.ph/artworks/reclining-woman-vi/#comment-65
It was already confirmed to be at imeldas house even last year, that cropped pic is from that picture, idk why they are declaring it as missing we know where it is.
Bobo nakapaglaro ka na ba ng spot the difference? Kahit kami dito sa bahay meron kaming replica non mas maliit eh, iba din itsura sa orig na ginawa ni Picasso, so ninakaw din namin?
Pablo Picasso died 1973. therefore, it was 49 years ago.
according to research, you are allowed to replicate an artwork only if the artist died over 50 years.
in conclusion, replicate or not, it is illegal & knowing that this artwork is missing. Parehas na parehas yung artwork are you blind? I’m an artist kaya wag ka nagmamarunong
Funny cause im not even a professional artist but i can see the difference without straining my eyes 🤔
OmO ikaw may sabi niyan. mana-mana 🧐🤪
JUST A REPLICA!, AS AN ARTIST WE CAN OBVIOUSLY SPOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
It doen’t even look alike, how can you blame someone that they stole a painting that doen’t even look like it.
Compare the two. The one in their mansion is just a replica. Even a gradeschooler can see the difference.
It’s just a replica. Look at the fine details if you have such a good eye for art.
Lol, it’s obvious na andaming pagkakaiba
gago biktima ka ng fake news..Reproduction copy lang yung nakita
Please compare. It looks like a copy, there are slight differences from this to the on the video.
Hi! The painting resurfaced yesterday (May 11, 2022). Aired on TV Patrol when BBM visited Imelda. Photos were provided by Imee Marcos herself. Please see link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdO-87pe7g
What time in the video shows the photo
https://youtu.be/hrdO-87pe7g?t=3762
Magkaiba sila. Check detail per detail nung artwork. Aside from pinalitan yung frame.
yup. ewan ko ba dito sa mga to. akala ko ba magaling sila sa mga facts? tapos simpleng differences lang ng details sa painting hindi pa ma figure out mga timang hahahaha
trolls
Sila ba yung galing sa 2.5 million pesos? 😆
It’s the same painting. Different frames and different lighting.
True mga inutil e
Edi nakaw nga yung isa magkaibang frame eh HAHAHA
As an artist, sa pag check ko ng paintings na yan, mag kaiba sila. Magkaiba details sa lower part.
No they are not the same😅 my god have you seen the difference between the two😂😂 how desperate kakampink
fyi, instead using your opinion for spot the difference. Try to search it, Mrs Marcos is said to be a keen art collector. Why would she get a fake one? https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29427876
Jusmiyo tignan mo lahat ng strokes galing sa baba. Left to right.
Ang pinapalabas kasi pinagmumuka tayong tanga na harap harapan bna binalandra yung painting after mawala.
Nakita mo ba ang narrative ng post ng fb?
Magkaiba sila pero pinapalabas nila na pareho lang yung painting. Tapos.
Did you read the link that I attached?
State spokesman Nick Suarez confirmed that a number of pieces of art had been removed from Marcos properties, but they “have yet to determine which ones or how many”. It was said that around 150 painting was there, and there are missing pieces.
And you are making a story that those painting is just a replica?
Do you have a source of that?
I think the reaurfacing of the painting just calls for an investigation if this is legit or not. If he’s innocent then no problem. If he’s not, then it proves he’s a thief. Why so defensive?
Please see this link:
if not proven stolen please stop on bashing them omg kayo
isa nanamang tao ang sarado ang utak
pinasok na rin ng troll itong tread na to. lol
mas mukha ka pang troll beh, ‘wag papatalo
Sarado agad utak? Bugok. Wala pa mang legal movement na ginagawa ikaw sarado utak be. Masyado kang nagmamagaling edi kung napatunayan edi laklakin mo paintings jusko..
ikaw sarado utak.. sarado pa pati mata. simpleng difference lang sa details ng painting di mo pa mapansin pota.
and if they’re proven to be true u better be ashamed of yourself
what the hell. hanggang dito ba naman?
again
Civil Case No. 0141
Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
SOURCE: https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests/aglzfmVmb2ktcGhyHgsSB0NvbnRlbnQiEVBDR0ctNTMxOTQ5ODA5MjU5DA
magkano bayad sayo? 60K?
Hi lang sa mga tropa mong trolls. Sana masaya nakayo sa perang tinanggap niyo.
MAGKANO BAYAD SAYO?
Tama. May due process lahat yan. Need to undergo investigation first to prove that they really stole it. Wag naman sana sarado utak mga people. Makapang bash lang ih.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1128512327695359&set=pcb.1128512561028669
If the painting that recently resurfaced on the news is really speculated as the missing piece, it should be investigated. But the question is, will the authorities act on it? Now that a Marcos is to be proclaimed as president?
And speaking of replicas, yes, they can make one like what they did to the Golden Buddha.
I agree, kasi katulad ng sinabi mo replicas could be like that kasi iba ang details if you will compare those 2 and yah they can act on it tho Marcos will be the President…
It’s the same, the lighting is the reason why it looks different
Artist ako. Alam ko kung base lang sa lightings na sinasabi mo. Kaso hindi. Pakatitigan mo din yung sukat ng bawat details. Lalo sa lower part. Magkaibang magkaiba.
The painting was seen in the Marcos residence
Then you will judge na agad? Besh wala pa namang investigation na na gaganap iyan na agad…
Yun nga ang point eh, Dapat imbestigahan kesa sa mag tanga tanga lang ang mga tao.
Sinasampal na sa mukha natin lahat na kayang kaya nilang magnakaw pero kayo umaastang walang nakikita or naririnig. Gusto niyo ng pag babago pero nag bubulagbulagan kayo. Yan ang kaibahan nyong mga panatiko ni BBM! Kaming kakampink hindi kami panatiko ni leni kung sakaling may negatibong lumabas tungkol sa kanya, kami ang unang uusig sa kanya. Hindi yun bang babash lang basta. Bukas ang isip namin sa pangit at magandang ginagawa ng kandidato namin. Eh kayo? Halos sambahin niyo na.
and yet you chose to turn blind on her ‘lutang’ moments. she made a fool of herself on the campaign. wearing stupid costumes, doing absurdly idiotic ‘superhero’ videos and all of you kakampinks either ignored it or just urged her to do more of those. Yung speech nya everytime nakafocus sa ibang candidate. and what is the highlight of her rallies? her reading stupid placards na makes you (kakampinks) feel superior pero cringeworthy naman. I really tried to know and understand her as a presidential candidate pero sobrang turn off nung mga ‘terms’ na pinapasimuno ng camp nya and ng mga supporters. i had enough of hearing/reading the words ‘laylayan and resibo’ in everything you all say.
Actually, she is an okay candidate. Even good at some point. Pero i believe one of her downfalls are her supporters like you who thinks they are a hundred times better than anyone else just because other people chose a different side or still undecided. Instead na makagarner kayo ng supporter, lalo na nabawasan. You all claim she is like this and that, and she is more known and popular now than the 2016 elections, but what happened to her votes comapred to then and now? With the gained popularity and the support of those artistas, her votes didn’t even spike? And you all make fun of the celebrities on other candidates’ rallies for being unknown and has been.. e wala naman palang hatak yang mga well known artists nyo kahit pa magpatayan na mga fandom nila.
You said, ‘Bukas ang isip namin sa pangit at magandang ginagawa ng kandidato namin. Eh kayo? Halos sambahin niyo na.’How about you open you mind sa magandang nagawa or maaring gawin din ng iba? Wala pa man e jinajudge nyo na. Bias kayo lol. Kay mamaleni lang kayo open pero sa iba, nada. Not pertaining to BBm alone, other candidates as well.
At some point, you leni supporters reminds me of a cult. you look only to leni as the only savior there is. yes she is capable but, she is not the only one capable. you support more the color pink than the country itself. her rallies, people were asked to wear pink, bring pink decors, pink flags. but where is the philippines in that pink? kahit anong kulay pa ang ifront nyo, if you are not bringing the philippines with you at the back of that color, you are not for the philippines. you are for the candidate. 🙂
And one more thing, see the gap between leni and kiko’s votes? they are supposed to be a tandem. but how come only 9 million voted for kiko? lol sobrang kawawa na nga nya in his situation, lalo pa sa mga rallies niyo. either nasa likod lang, yung mga nag eendorse, si leni lang ang itataas ang kamay. si kiko parang afterthought na lang. their names are together sa campaign lang. names lang.
Parang kay Marcos Martial Law lutang, ousted at tumakbo sa Hawaii moments lang which people turned a blind eye on. Also wow moment. Mahaba dahil alam may reading comprehension maka-Leni meanwhile mga ka-Marcos waley kaya I have to keep this short. Para talagang kulto akala matalino mga ka-Marcos dahil alam naman na mga narcissist leaders yung naglilead ng mga kulto. Sa bagay, kapag 86 average IQ lang ang mga Filipinos malamang susceptible sila sa mga cults. Buti nga mababait mga Amerikano nakapamahay pa rin mga Marcos sa Hawaii na ibinoto ng mga 86 IQ people.
🙂
Haha pa you’re not for the philippines, you’re for the candidate pang inaalam parang hindi binoboto mga pilipino yung mga ka-barangay lang. Ahaha. Very tribal culture.
Tagalog na nga ang pagconstruct, sabog pa. Manang mana sa nanay nila.
Ang haba pero walang sense, parang press con nung Easter Sunday 🤪
Ah?
Bobohan nyo pa
Filipinos being desperate without any more knowledge and proofs, basta makita lang na mali kahit dimo alam kung ano ba talaga ibabato mo e lols grow up people.
nakakatawang nakakainis nalang talaga mga katangahan, ang bilis mapaniwala ng mga pilipino nang hindi naghahanap ng katotohanan hahahaha
lmao, the Marcos family is known for thievery, what do you want people to expect when they saw the missing Picasso hanging on Imelda’s wall?
Hello, known as thievery? Kayo lang naman ang may mga pasaring na ganyan. Y not try to file a case beh, there’s legal process to that. Go tocourt and ilatag mo ang mga ebidensiya mayroon ka. Puro kayo imaginary judgments with no sense.
xD as if we have a chance to speak up.
Papuntahin mo si BBM sa US may court na agad 🙂 pero corrupt naman ang mga Pilipino, it’ in their genes so why does it make sense for one to trust the Philippine courts? Of course corrupt people vote corrupt presidents. Kek.
totoo beh
It has resurfaced again this week when Marcos Jr visited his mother during his lead in the election tally. The Election tally is questionable. The records show a statistically impossible straight linear.
I bet to disagree. Even UP school already clarify abt that issue. If u still have a doubt abt election tally then file a case. Huwag tayo puro imaginary judgments. Simple math and statistics di mo kayang gawin?
Can you please provide the link for the clarification made by a UP professor? If you’re going to look at the data, the numbers do not make any sense. It’s straight linear without any deviation or outlier. It means the percentage of change is fixed which is kinda weird since the numbers seem like predetermined. I hope you understand this.
so far, PPCRV already said that no irregularities happened between transmissions and ER cross checkings, if there is something irregularities inside the precinct, I think your poll watchers can give you the best answer. The straight linear is statiscally possible but still can’t be use as evidence of irregularities.
It’s in Imelda Marcos’ house in Makati City, Philippines.
“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance”
True pero may namatay pa rin sa drug war.
You keep on throwing trash, y not try to file a case abt this. It takes due process beh. If this is indeed true, well, can’t blame ppl for bashing them. However, if the outcome shows otherwise, shame for those people who bashed them.
Missing kasi tinanggal nung ininvestigate :). Share lang.
Please watch TheKingmaker on Netflix.
yung nasa 2015 source, ayan din yung nasa facebook na kumakalat. pansinin nyo yung shadow ng halaman kanan pansinin nyo yung details wag kayo magpakatangaa!!
True.
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/imelda-marcos-missing-art-philippines-373709/amp-page
For reference here are all the “WON & ADVERSE JUDGMENTS PCGG RECOVERY of Ill-Gotten Wealth Cases (Banner or Mandate Cases)” via FOI
source: (not me) https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests/aglzfmVmb2ktcGhyHgsSB0NvbnRlbnQiEVBDR0ctNTMxOTQ5ODA5MjU5DA
On artworks:
Civil Case No. 0141
Republic of the Philippines vs. Ferdinand Marcos (rep. by his heirs) and Imelda Marcos
Under “Marcos’ Collection of Paintings”
On December 19, 2019 (Yes during Duterte admin) – Sandiganbayan where the latter declared the following paintings and artworks as unlawfully acquired, and are therefore forfeited in favor of the Republic…
“In the case of respondents, they failed to state and substantiate how they lawfully acquired the funds used to purchase the paintings. Respondents likewise failed to show proof that they had other legitimate sources of income aside from their combined salaries of $304,372.43. Hence, this sum legally and fairly serves as basis for determining the existence of a prima facie case of forfeiture of the artworks. The Court also notes that aside from respondents’ admission by silence, there were instances when respondents made express admissions as to their possession and/or ownership of the paintings and/or artworks.”
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Other items included for this case ONLY:
*Malacanang Collection of Jewelry (In 2017, YES during Duterte admin again, the SC dismissed the appeal filed by the Marcoses with FINALITY)
*Arelma Funds (US)
*Swiss Deposits of 5 Marcos’ Foundations (US$658,175,373.60 as of 31 January 2002) (around 34 billion pesos)
Nasa marcos yan nasa news…Huli piro di kulong..na naman..
File a case then. Don’t you ever jump into conclusion. There’s a legal process to that. Nagmumukha kasi kayong mga walang alam.
May case na
Why they will stole if they really own it.
Nakalagay lang na missing kay google missing artwork na hahaha .. hindi ba pwedeng tinangal nalang sa google bitch
Pwede naman tangaling kung hindi missing diba? Mahirap ba yun?
Please don’t be unreasonable. If it’s identified as missing, then it means it could be stolen by someone else and those who have it now acquired the masterpiece illegally. Google is a search engine, you could either find a credible or sketchy website. Nevertheless, it’s on YOU if you can’t fact-check and classify what is fake from fact. I pity you, really. I hope you’re getting paid for being this unreasonable.
Haha why they will stole if they really own it. Begging the question. Fallacy na agad. Next!
Kung hindi missing bat nasa list pa dito?
Kung BBM blind loyalist ka lahat ng mali sa paningin mo ay tama. Wag na makipagtalo ang against BBM.
The painting is with imelda marcos
proof? check the link.
nakina Marcos po yung painting
wala lang. gusto ko lang ishare na hnd po siya missing. wala naman kayong gagawin para mapanagutan sila. what a world we live in
Ipapamissing rin lang naman kapag iinvestigate so missing is still accurate. Nasa Marcos genes eh.